About swords dance & nasty plot?

hi .. am new to competitive playing not the game ! , am so bored with these moves :-swords dance+nasty plot+dragon dance.

i mean they being abused and ruining the game for me , my questions are :-

1. why these moves don’t have a down side like curse or shell smash , so they won’t be abused in battle ?2) any advise how to deal with these moves ?

i tried to use roar but until I switch to my Pokemon that knows roar , he used anotherswords dance and GAME OVER lol .

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Answering question 1)

Swords dance can be evaded but obviously using many tactics such as Pokemon held items.. if my garchomp held a red card which forced your sharpedo out for instance which was using swords dance then your stat buffs get removed.. problem is red card is a one time use and preffered for wifi… ingame battling though such as campaign I’d recommened you research exactly what your after and trying to build since writing this I’m unaware of what Pokemon your using however ill give some examples..

Keldeo is, IMO, the best offensive counter. It resists both Steel and Dark STABS, can hit it 4x with Secret Sword, and play mind games with the ability to set up a substitute on a Sucker Punch. It’s ideal.For a more defensive ‘mon, perhaps try Mega Venusaur or Ferrothorn, really.

Breloom @ Focus SashAbility: TechnicianEVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpeAdamant Nature- Swords Dance- Bullet Seed- Mach Punch- Spore

just examples really to what you phrased earlier, to counter stat buff changes against Pokemon you need move sets like ‘‘spore’’ , burned enemy Pokemon so on like will-o-wisp move«

Question 2)

A Pokemon like this

Starmie @ Sitrus BerryAbility: Analytic (1.3 power if moved last)EVs: 164 Def / 92 SpA / 252 SpDModest Nature- Surf (STAB 1.5)- Minimize (raise evasinveness by 2)- Recycle (use berry again)- Thunderbolt (just for a laugh vs anyting flying, water)

you can seriously mix things up a bit if you was willing to try wifi :)

Not sure tbh if I helped but do hope it came to some sort of closure for you..

Answer to Question 1:

1. why these moves don’t have a down side like curse or shell smash , so they won’t be abused in battle ? Game Freak designed them in a way which a downside doesn’t seem apparent but in all actuality the downside is you take a whole turn to setup which means you’re open to be attacked/burned/paralysed which in turn can completely negate all effort

Answer to Question 2:

any advise how to deal with these moves ? Prankster users for example like Klefki and Mega Banette really help in this case because the +1 (?) priority effect moves like Thunder Wave and Will-o-Wisp really hurt (Quite Alot)

In any case, I hope I kinda explained and shed some light on the subject

Regards Kaname~