Ferrothorn or Escavalier?
I have perfectly ev trained a Ferrothorn and Escavalier, but I dont want to have to deal with 2 Pokemon with a 4x weakness to fire which one should I pick?
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It depends what you want for your team & also which tier you’re playing in (the usual answer for these kinds of questions). I’ll add the EVs for the sets as well, even though you say you’ve already EV trained.
EscavalierMassive attack stat of 135, very decent defences & good typing, but slow speed & mediocre HP, along with not very appealing abilities.
Role: full out attacker
Escavalier is only able to be a full out attacker, so if you need a good sweeper and some bug coverage, go for Escavalier. It can work very well on Trick Room teams, due to its low speed guaranteeing it to go last, and its typing means that the ever Popular Mach Punch is x1. Choice Band is a common held item, adding a further boost for an already monstrous attack stat. However, while Magnezone is not seen in RU/ UU, Escavalier does need to deal with Magnet Pull Magneton, and one HP fire will end it. Unlike Scizor, Escavalier is even slower, and has nothing to deal with Magneton, its only viable fighting move being Reversal.
Escavalier @ Choice BandAbility: SwarmEVs: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Sp. DefNature: Adamant- Megahorn- Iron Head- Pursuit- Sleep Talk
First two for STAB, second to deal with psychic types that try to escape, and lastly to be a status absorber.
FerrothornGood typing, useful ability, immunity to leech seed, access to many hazards & status moves, very good defence stats, but slow & lacking in HP.
Roles: staller/ wall/ hazard set up || attacker
Ferrothorn can serve a few roles on your team, the most common being a hazard set up & Leech Seed wall. The less common use for Ferrothorn is an all out Choice Band attacker, since it does have some very good STAB moves in Power Whip & Gyro Ball, benefiting from its slow speed. It’s especially popular on Rain teams since HP Fire will be less likely to OHKO it, as well as providing a Grass/ Water/ Electric resistance. However, once again slow speed will mean it has to go last unless under Trick Room, and its typing means it’s weak to Fighting as well (unlike Escavalier).
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers/ Rocky Helmet/ Shed ShellAbility: Iron BarbsEVs: 252 HP, 92 Def, 164 Sp. DefNature: Relaxed- Leech Seed- Thunder Wave- Spikes- Power Whip/ Gyro Ball
Shed Shell is useful in this scenario, since in OU Ferrothorn will need to deal with Magnezone very frequently.
Ferrothorn @ Choice BandAbility: Iron BarbsEVs: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Sp. DefNature: Brave- Gyro Ball- Power Whip- Bulldoze- Explosion
However, Escavalier’s Choice Band set outclasses Ferrothorn (while still having a respectable attack stat of 94). If you want an all out attacker, go for Escavalier.
Conclusion - basically, Ferrothorn for some resistances & hazards, Escavalier for some Trick Room sweeping. If you don’t use Trick Room, Escavalier will have to take a few dents before it can do anything. In OU, the better sweeper is Scizor, since it has the ever useful U-Turn to escape from a Magnezone trap, or Superpower to deal with it.
Ferro!!!
With BW bringing a plethora of offensively inclined threats into the metagame, Ferrothorn remains an exception to the rule, holding its ground against many of the most threatening Pokemon seen in competitive play. Great defensive typing, above average stats, and a killer support movepool make him a valuable asset to both offensive and defensive teams alike. The ability to check so many threats at once, including (but not limited to) Latios, Gengar, and nearly every Water-type in existence allows Ferrothorn many opportunities to switch in and either set up entry hazards or retaliate with either of its two powerful STAB moves. Much like any other Pokemon, Ferrothorn does have its drawbacks in its poor Speed and 4x Fire weakness, but with the right team support, Ferrothorn will almost always perform well.
There’s a reason why Escavalier is in RU and Ferrothorn is in OU.
I use this thing so much in OU. I recommend it for you.
Role: Paralyze Support / Hazard Set-up
Ferrothorn @ LeftoversTrait: Iron BarbsEVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 AtkImpish Nature- Leech Seed- Power Whip- Spikes- Thunder Wave
That’s a common Ferrothorn moveset.
Role: Physical Wall
Ferrothorn @ Rocky HelmetTrait: Iron BarbsEVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 AtkImpish Nature- Curse- Leech Seed- Power Whip- Thunder Wave
Are you tired of Physical sweepers? This ferrothorn will help you to beat them.
Step 1. Leech Seed the foeStep 2. Paralyze the foeStep 3. Use Curse to boost your defence and attackStep 4. Have fun!!! Hehehe
Role: Hazard Set-up
Ferrothorn @ LeftoversTrait: Iron BarbsEVs 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpDBrave Nature- Explosion- Stealth Rocks- Spikes- Thunder Wave
Set up your Stealth rocks and Spikes and then explode yourself :)
Role: Choice Band
Ferrothorn @ Choice BandTrait: Iron BarbsEVs 252 Atk / 252 Hp / 4 SpD0 IVs Speed- Gyro Ball- Power Whip- Bulldoze- Explosion
Powerful banded Ferro
Ferrothorn @ LeftoversTrait: Iron BarbsEVs 252 Atk / 252 Hp / 4 DefAdamant nature- Gyro Ball- Power Whip- Leech Seed- Curse
Role: Choice Band
Escavalier @ Choice BandTrait: SwarmEVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDefAdamant Nature- Megahorn- Iron Head- Pursuit- Double-Edge
Role: Staller / Knock off
Escavalier @ LeftoversTrait: SwarmEVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 AtkCareful Nature- Megahorn- Knock Off- Toxic- Protect
Role: Swords Dance
Escavalier @ LeftoversTrait: SwarmEVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDefAdamant Nature- Swords Dance- Iron Head- Megahorn- Pursuit
Thanks for reading my answer :D I Hope you enjoyed it!
///Jofly
Ferrothorn is better for defensive purposes, but also gets STAB Gyro Ball, while Escavalier is purely powerful and can learn STAB Megahorn. Either way, both are amazing when Trick Room is active. Ferrothorn is one of my favorites as it can slightly counter physical attacks like Fire Punch with Iron Barbs. Giving it Leftovers, and Ingrain can make dealing with it a pain if your opponent doesn’t OHKO it with that 4x Fire weakness. Plus, it gets slightly more HP and more defense than Escavalier so it will survive longer.
