How viable is a Blissey with Minimize/Toxic?
Lets say I have a BlisseyHolding Lax Incense252 Defense EVs, some EVs in Sp Def and maybe Sp Atk- Minimize- Toxic- Rest- Fire Blast
The plan is to Minimize until max evasion, use Toxic, and Rest in case attacks/status ailments do hit.Then sit back and watch the show.Fire Blast if a steel or poison type switches in.I understand that Body Slam, Mach Punch, and Perish Song are strong counters against this, but is there anything else that would make this Blissey cry?Also, what are some ways to compliment this Blissey in team composition?Sorry if I come off as naive; I’ve only recently graduated from the “keep using Swampert until it’s Lv. 100” school of thought.
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In a Showdown battle,no.Why ? Because Evasion moves are banned.
This set is risky. It could work well occasionally, but fail as well.Firstly, get rid of Fire Blast. Blissey has poor SpA stat you are better off with a move that causes a set number of damage.
If youreallywanted to use this I suggest :
Blissey@Lax Incense/Lefties252HP/252 SpD/4 Speed or /4Def or /4SpA
-Seismic Toss-Minimize-Toxic-Rest/Soft Boiled
Don’t bother to much with her Defense or both Atk, SpA and Speed you’re better of maximizing her stats she excel in. Seismic Toss over FB. Blissey doesn’t have horrendous SpA but Seismic Toss is better. If you are gonna go for FB give the remaing 4 EV in SpA.
Minimize and evasion moves in general are frowned upon greatly in competitive battling.
Double team is ill-advised.
Lets see what smogon says:
Blissey @ LeftoversAbility: Natural CureEVs: 252 Def / 252 SpD / 4 SpeCalm Nature- Toxic- Flamethrower- Soft-Boiled- Heal Bell
As smogon states, Blissey is meant to be a wall. Walls take and soak up hits from most any attacker, while double team is meant for frail sweepers. You need healing moves(not rest), so soft boiled/heal bell works, and blissey’s main move is spreading toxic. Fire blast can be used only 8 times in a battle(unless supported with lunar dance) so flamethrower is a better viable option. However, unlike smogon, softboiled/heal bell can be switched for double team(if you really want it)/focus blast/seed bomb for more coverage. But leftovers is important as a held item so do not get rid of it.
Alright, I personally use that blissey set myself, or a variation of that. Now, you are focusing on evasion to avoid damage while toxicing them to death. Now, I personally use minimize AND substitute. Substitute makes me immune to being paralyzed confused poisoned or anything else. And if they are able to move first, and status me before I am able to use substitute. I have nature cure so I can switch out and deal with whatever Pokemon that is there. Now, if a poison or steel comes around, I simply switch out to a ground type. ground is super effective against both steel and poison. My ground type of choice is garchomp. Now, here is what can play out. blissey with bright powder for additional evasion, uses substitute, the Pokemon either attacks, lands, and doe enough damage to break the subsitute. In which case you subsitute again and hope for them to switch use a status move or miss with the bright powder. then you use mimimize the moment you get a miss, or toxic. Some moves like Arial ace never misses, as such you should watch out for it. But a move like swift, that is a special attack blissey has high health and special defense its likely that swift would not break the substitute, as such not a threat. A physical attacker that hits hard enough to one shot blissey. Now, you could remove toxic off blissey entirely for a sleep move instead, and use toxic spikes support on a different mon. and those turns of sleep to set up a bit better. There is a lot of variations you can do with this, I personally like it but it is quite luck based. the enemy needs to be lucky to win if you set up right, or bring steel or poison types.
