Is Primal-Kyogre viable in National Dex AG?

Some people use Primal Kyogre, but it seems that more people use Primal Groudon over Kyogre. Why is that so?

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Primal Kyogre just pales into comparison with Primal Groudon, because of the sheer difference in sets.

What does Primal Kyogre run? Standard Calm Mind Sp.A set, which is very easy to guess and thus wallable by Primal Groudon. On the other hand, Primal Groudon’s sets are really varied—you can’t guess if it’s a special set, mix, Swords Dance or even Toxic Rest defensive sets. Primal Groudon is able to check a whole part of the meta-game—Zacian-Crowned, Ho-Oh, Kyogre formes, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Eternatus, etc. etc. with so many sets of it own. It can fit into any play-style, let it be Hyper Offense (Swords Dance Rock Polish Double Dance), Balance (Stealth Rock setter, Xerneas phazer), Bulky Offense with mixed sets as well. This makes it very unpredictable and hitting unsuspected foes very hard.Unfortunately, Primal Kyogre’s sets don’t have any notable variation

252 SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Groudon-Primal: 97-115 (24 - 28.4%) – 97% chance to 4HKO0 Atk Groudon-Primal Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyogre: 235-277 (68.9 - 81.2%) – guaranteed 2HKO

Splash-ableness of Primal Groudon versus that of Primal Kyogre

4 Atk Life Orb Dark Aura Yveltal Max Darkness vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyogre-Primal: 309-367 (90.6 - 107.6%) – guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock+1 252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyogre-Primal: 333-394 (97.6 - 115.5%) – guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock+1 252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Never-Ending Nightmare (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre-Primal: 369-435 (108.2 - 127.5%) – guaranteed OHKO+1 252+ Atk Zacian-Crowned Wild Charge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyogre-Primal: 432-510 (126.6 - 149.5%) – guaranteed OHKO252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyogre-Primal: 391-461 (114.6 - 135.1%) – guaranteed OHKO

Competition from Life Orb Dynamax Kyogre

252 SpA Kyogre-Primal Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rayquaza-Mega in Strong Winds: 252-298 (71.7 - 84.9%) – guaranteed 2HKO252 SpA Kyogre-Primal Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Heavy Rain: 298-352 (42.3 - 50%) – 0.4% chance to 2HKO252 SpA Kyogre-Primal Ice Beam vs. 136 HP / 52 SpD Groudon-Primal: 130-153 (34.6 - 40.8%) – guaranteed 3HKO

VS

252 SpA Life Orb Kyogre Max Hailstorm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rayquaza-Mega in Strong Winds: 411-484 (117 - 137.8%) – guaranteed OHKO252 SpA Life Orb Kyogre Max Hailstorm vs. 136 HP / 52 SpD Groudon-Primal: 212-250 (56.5 - 66.6%) – guaranteed 2HKO+2 252 SpA Life Orb Kyogre Max Geyser vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Rain: 675-795 (96 - 113%) – 75% chance to OHKO

The higher damage output of LO Dmax Kyogre makes it a more attractive choice than Primal Kyogrefor non-Primal Kyogre nostalgic fans (including PrimalKyogre). That’s why it faces stiff competition and is deemed to be an awkward choice in many teams.

Hope this helps!

Conclusion: Just use Kyogre, or something else that is bulky. Like Primal Groudon, Xerneas, or Necrozma-DM. Or use scarf Kyogre instead of Primal lol

Hope this helps :)