Should Conkelldur have Iron Fist or Sheer Force?

I know that:Sheer Force + Life Orb = Major Threat.But:Iron Fist + Drain Punch + Mach Punch = Massive healing + Boosted STAB priority.

So which is the better ability for Conkelldur?

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Neither. I know this is an either or question, but f you’re using Conkeldurr, it should have Guts. Guts is far superior as an ability for a bulky physical attacker.

If Conkeldurr is burnt, both of its other abilities are no longer a threat.

Iron Fist>Iron Fist causes the Base Power of affected punching moves to increase by 20%

20% is measly, considering that Life Orb boosts moves by 30%.

Sheer Force>Sheer Force raises the base power of all attacking moves that have an additional effect by 30%, but the additional effects are ignored.

30% is like a Life Orb boost, but it doesn’t boost Drain Punch or Mach Punch, which are the 2 main moves Conkeldurr uses. Sheer Force is more useful on special attackers like Nidoking or Landorus, because burn won’t render them useless.

Guts>Guts raises the Attack stat by 50% while affected by the burn, paralysis, poison, or sleep status ailments. The Attack drop from burn does not occur.

Guts is basically a Life Orb + Iron Fist boost,andit won’t make Conkeldurr useless when burnt.

You can either make Conkeldurr carry a Flame/ Toxic Orb, or give it an Assault Vest, considering how common status moves like Toxic, Thunder Wave & Will-O-Wisp are, in addition to Toxic Spikes.

So the Iron Fist + Life Orb boost is exactly the same as a Guts boost, meaning Guts > Iron Fist because of burn and also because you can choose an item other than a status orb.

Conkeldurr @ Assault VestAbility: GutsEVs: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Sp. DefNature: Adamant- Knock Off- Drain Punch- Ice Punch- Mach Punch

Conkeldurr @ Flame OrbAbility: GutsEVs: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 DefNature: Adamant- Bulk Up/ Ice Punch- Knock Off- Drain Punch- Mach Punch

Conkeldurr

Both abilities are great.There isn’t really a “better” ability for him, though Sheer Force is more common of the two(Flame Orb guts reigns supreme, with 1.5x attack + 30% boost from Life Orb). Here is a moveset that covers both quite nicely:

Conkeldurr @ Shell Bell/Life OrbEVs: 252 Atk, 252 HP, 4 DefNature: Adamant (^Atk vSpAtk)Ability: Iron Fist/Sheer ForceThunder PunchIce PunchDrain PunchMach Punch/Fire Punch

Shell Bell has recovery, Life Orb has more damage. The elemental punches bring secondary effects are are boosted by both abilities, Drain Punch brings even more recovery, and Mach Punch brings STAB priority, and everyone loves STAB priority, right? :D

Moveset explained more here

Well remember that sheer force doesn’t boost drain punch or mach punch, two of conkeldurr’s biggest STAB’s. It does however, make using elemental punches a lot more easier and powerful. If you wanna use conkeldurr with great coverage, then you should use the sheer force set, if you want a conkeldurr that stays there to do solid damage with it’s STABs as well, then use iron fist.

Conkeldurr should have IRON FIST instead of Sheer Force. Both abilities are great, butIron fist is better for Conkeldurr. As you mention, drain punch and Mach punch are great for an iron fist Conkeldurr, iron fist gives it more power, and Conkeldurr gets STAB.

ConkeldurrAdamant natureLife orb252 atk/252 HP/4 def

Mach Punch-priority, STAB, iron fist boostDrain Punch- HP recovery, STAB, iron fist boostHammer Arm-STAB, iron fist boostThunder Punch-Iron fist boost

In this example, Conkeldurr has 3-4 punch moves that get boosted with iron fist.

Hope I helped!Overall, iron fist>sheer force for Conkeldurr.