Shuckle or Cradily for a wall?

I am looking for a good stalling Pokemon with very high Defense and Sp. Defense. The two Pokemon that caught my eye were Cradily(The Barnacle Pokemon) and Shuckle(The Mold Pokemon). Now I am wondering which one is better and whats a good move set for them. Here are some of the move sets I was thinking about.

Shuckle @ LeftoversAbility: ContraryLevel: 50EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SpDSassy Nature- Infestation- Toxic- Shell Smash- Rest

Cradily @ LeftoversAbility: Suction CupsLevel: 50EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 140 SpDRelaxed Nature- Toxic- Infestation- Stockpile- Recover

If there is any flaws in these sets, please tell me. Thankyou :)

PS: Should these Pokemon be teamed up with a Sleep or Paralysis inducer? Which one would help them set up there Stockpile/Shell Smash more safely?

Pleaselog inorregisterto add a comment.

I don’t recommend either. Each of them have very significant flaws. There is no point in using them over better walls and stallers, especially not if you are playing competitive Pokemon (which, by the looks of things, you are). I’m also slightly confused as to what you want me to critique, you have “wall” in your title but you seem to want a staller. I’ll just try a combination of both.

Also this is going to sound harsh so be ready for that ;)

If you’re going to use Shuckle, use a set that isn’t as gimmicky as that one (although that’s hard to do as Shuckle is a gimmick in itself). Use Sticky Web and Stealth Rock at least.

Much better Pokemon than Shuckle with more balanced stats and a more usable set of offensive stats. However, it is outclassed in every way by Ferrothorn, who boasts even better stats, a better typing with more resistances, a resistance to Stealth Rock, decent attacks in Power Whip and Gyro Ball and more. The only thing Cradily really has over it is good recovery, but that isn’t enough reason to use it over Ferrothorn.

This is the set that gets Ferrothorn a lot of attention (stole this from Smogon becuase I’m lazy like that):

Ferrothorn @ LeftoversAbility: Iron BarbsEVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpDImpish Nature- Stealth Rock- Leech Seed- Toxic- Gyro Ball/ Power Whip

Ferrothorn is one of the most well known walls/ stallers in the game. It packs fantastic defences, access to excellent support moves and it also has a good typing to go along with it, unlike Cradily who also packs just two resistances and four weaknesses.

For some other recommendations on stallers and walls, seethis articleby Smogon. It’s for gen 5, but most of the Pokemon there are still relevant in their own tiers.

As for status Pokemon to support them, paralysis support is very useful for stallers that are generally very slow. Sleep is nice for just about everything, I don’t think I need to explain that. So yes, basically, but don’t do anything drastic like remove a Pokemon on your team just so you can have a Pokemon with the move. You’re putting too much effort into your stallers if you’re doing that, support your other Pokemon as well.