What are some good counters to rain teams in gen 8 ou?
Well I’m being destroyed by lots of rain teams. I want a good counter to them. The main things that they have are:Almost Always- Pelipper- Ferrothorn- BarraskewdaOccasionally- Crawdaunt- Tornadus-Therian- Thunderous-Therian- Seismatoad
Even scarf max speed kartana can’t beat max speed (which most have) Seismatoad, which sweeps me whenever it’s there. Also, its tricky to thunderbolt Pelipper as they almost always predict in something like a Thunderous-Therian and volt absorbing it. Crawdaunt is also a problem because of priority. Of course, there’s also the almost unbeatable ferrothorn in rain. So, can someone give me some tips on how to beat these rain teams, specifically the things I mentioned?
Also my team:Tapu Lele @ Choice ScarfAbility: Psychic SurgeEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeTimid NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Psyshock- Moonblast- Focus Blast- Thunderbolt
Kartana @ Choice ScarfAbility: Beast BoostEVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 SpeAdamant Nature- Leaf Blade- Smart Strike- Sacred Sword- Knock Off
Swampert @ LeftoversAbility: DampEVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDCareful Nature- Yawn- Earthquake- Flip Turn- Stealth Rock
Volcarona @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Flame BodyEVs: 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpeTimid NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Quiver Dance- Fiery Dance- Giga Drain- Psychic
Mandibuzz (F) @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: OvercoatEVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDImpish Nature- Foul Play- U-turn- Roost- Defog
Garchomp @ Life OrbAbility: Rough SkinEVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 SpeJolly Nature- Scale Shot- Earthquake- Stone Edge- Swords Dance
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So, the goal to beating Rain teams have 2 paths. One tip I usually keep in mind is don’t try to outsweep the sweepers. Try to outlast them and wear them down.1. Take down the Rain Setter2. Take down the Rain Sweepers
I will take you through the 2nd method first. Now, just like the comments say, Tangrowth is a great option to counter Rain Teams and I know this from Experience. Fortunately for us, many Rain Sweepers like Crawdaunt, Barraskewda and sometimes Seismitoad are physical attackers. Additionally, Tangrowth doesn’t worry about any of them due to its Physical Bulk. There is only a slight problem that Tangrowth will face though. This is a Special Seismitoad and a Pelipper. These 2, especially Pelipper, will rip right through Tangrowth. I propose a solution though, don’t try to fix its Special Defense, but instead, buff its Physical Defense and combine this with a Rocky Helmet to get a Physical Killer that doesn’t mind any Physical Rain Sweepers. My proposed set.
Tangrowth @ Rocky HelmetRegenerate Ability252 Def/252 HP/4 SpD- Giga Drain- Knock Off- Focus Blast- Sleep Powder
Now, this is only half the problem, we still have Special Sweepers a Pelipper to deal with. My idea as a solution is Rotom-W. Rotom doesn’t mind anything from Seismitoad except for a Poisoning from Sludge Bomb. Rotom-W also has nice bulk to pressure any Frail sweepers and force a switch. Due to this, you can also provide offensive presence with a boosted Hydro Pump and Will-o-Wisp to provide a deterence to any Physical Sweepers. My proposed set -
Rotom-W @ LeftoversLevitate Ability252 HP/152 SpD/48 Spe/56 SpACalm Nature-Volt Switch-Thunderbolt-Hydro Pump-Will-o-Wisp.
This combination of Tangrowth and Rotom-W should provide defense and pressure against Rain teams and I hope you find Success with it. The only threat against these 2 mons is Thunderus-Therian, but I believe that the rest of your team should cover it fairly well. Rotom-W also covers the 1st method of beating a Rain Team, by beating the Rain Setter. If you want another method, you could try another weather setter or even put something like Ferrothorn on your team to take advantage of Rain while still having a solid Pokemon to use.
Hope this helps!