What are the best strategies to beat Norman in RSE?
I need a strategy. I didn’t start with Blaziken and my most powerful Pokemon is a Lv.25 Numel. I have a Lv.20 Machop. I don’t want just a “Level up your Machop” kind of thing, but more of a “Use these moves if…” etc., etc.
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I agree completely with Mewcreation, evolving your machop is the best way to go, given the info that you gave. What I did in my Sapphire is, I had two Lombres and alternate them using fake out on “Dad’s” Slaking. Since Lombre has low attack and fake out is weak, EV train (attack) and troll “dad” using the fake out when he sends out Slaking. Plus Marshtomp can learn decent fighting moves, if you gotten brick break already make Marshtomp learn it. That will help a lot. Those three things should work out for ya.
Here’s two ways to troll dad:The first one is the way I mentioned above. Two Lombres, even better two Nuzleafs (if possible), use macho brace to boost all stats when leveling up. After getting to the desired level (and stats) alternate Lombres/Nuzleafs between the loafing around; don’t forget to use Fake Out. Evolving your Lombres/Nuzleafs into Ludicolos/Shiftrys will help out, but got no new or better moves after evolving, so I’m leaving that decision to you.
The second one is getting a Pokemon that can learn Thunder Wave. Get a Pokemon that can learn the move, like Pikachu, get Makuhita/Hariyama that knows SmellingSalt. Use your Thunder Wave Pokemon to paralyze and alternate Makuhita/Hariyama, use SmellingSalt to increase power. Of coarse SmellingSalt will cure the paralyses, switch with the Thunder Wave Pokemon with Makuhita/Hariyama to do the whole thing again. Cycle through this a few times and you should be the winner.
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First, it’s easy to cheese this fight if you have a Pokemon that knows dig, protect, detect, or fake out. Defense lowering moves, physical attack lowering moves, and residual damage moves (like leech seed) are also helpful if you’re doing it this way. However, many Pokemon that learn the cheese moves become less useful later in the game, so I don’t recommend leveling up one of them and spending a bunch of time and experience just to make this fight easier.
If you don’t want to cheese, the next easiest thing to do is setting up. Spinda knows teeter dance, so a Persim berry or yellow flute makes it much easier to set up on it. Vigoroth’s encore means it might take a few soft resets before it doesn’t use encore or the encore ends early enough, and you want to attack Linoone and make sure it can’t use belly drum if you want to use that as setup bait. The best setup users accessible at this point in the game are probably Combusken, Beloom, Vigoroth, or Hariyama (bulk up), Gardevoir (calm mind), or Zangoose (swords dance). Combusken, Breloom, and Hariyama also have a type advantage.
If none of these are options for you, you’ll just have to keep battling Norman until you get enough experience to brute force him. You’ll need a Pokemon decent HP or physical defense stats, like Marshtomp or Gyarados.
Honestly, the best thing you could do Is evolve your machop. The two things that I did recently (I’m at Fortree right now) is level my mahutika up until it was a Hariyama, which took out almost all of the normal types. The other thing is using mainly special moves, like manectric, or grovyle as I did, as many of his Pokemon know confusion inducing moves, and this will hurt and physical based Pokemon. Knowing your starter would be useful to me as well. One last thing I did to KO Slaking was use dig with my Aron, missing all of the turns it could attack on because of truant. While It took a long time, it helped a lot. Poison, burn or other residual damage would also be a blessing with slaking.
Well, What I would do is if you have mudkip, (like me) you should hit with all the mud type attacks as possible. Also you could capture a skarmory and use it against Norman. This would help becuse his Slaking does very little damage to steel types
Hope this helps
You could catch an Aron or a Geodude then level them up, as they have a great resistance to Normal type attacks. or you could level up a Shromish that is easily accessible in Petalburg Woods and get Breloom with STAB-Mach Punch then if possible, teach it bulk up, you could do the same with Makuhita as its evolved form Hariyama is quite bulky and can take some hits.
For moves for either one I would definitely recommend Rock Tomb to lower their speed, or any defense boosting moves. Make sure they have an attack boosting nature or any investments in attack, so you can dish out as much damage as you can. Or just do what other people are saying and evolve your Machop. Make sure to teach it Bulk Up unless your Combusken already has it.
Hopefully, this helps :)