What is a good moveset for Frosmoth?
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Frosmoth @ Occa BerryAbility: Ice ScalesEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeModest NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Quiver Dance- Bug Buzz- Ice Beam- Hurricane / Weather Ball / Giga Drain
This set appreciates rain, but it’s not mandatory. In rain, after a Quiver Dance, Ice Scales, and Occa Berry, Frosmoth can easily take fire moves. It can also use Weather Ball to take out fire types, or 100% accurate Hurricanes in rain, or Giga Drain if you’re not using rain.
Frosmoth@ LeftoversAbility: Ice ScalesEvs: 252 Def / 4 HP / 252 Sp. DefBold Nature- Icy Wind- Struggle Bug- Wide Guard- Helping Hand/Tailwind/Feather Dance/Giga DrainDoubles tank/support Frosmoth! It has been doing wonders for me. It anihilates threats like Torkoal and Heat Wave Zard, Tyranitar´s Rock Slide, etc, despite being able to tank very well overall. you have access to moves that cripple Sp Atk and Speed of both enemies, apart of Feather Dance in case you feel like you really need to nulify a certain threat. It still 2 hit KOs Dragapults with icy wind without Sp Atk investments and can survive a flamethrower from it. It gets access to Tailwind to settup for a sweeper and Helping Hand to empower, all of these moves are great depending on the situation. I run mine usually with a Gmax Lapras that covers Rock and Fire types with Max Geyser and sets Rain and Aurora Veil.If you want the Lapras set too here ya go:Ability: Hydration Item: Light Clay252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Sp AtkModest Nature- Rest- Freeze-Dry- Surf- ThunderRest because Lapras is still pretty tanky and if you set Rain with Max Geyser, your ability Hydration will cure it from the sleep, then you´ll have thunder for coverage, surf for Stab since Frosmoth can tank it well or just protect itself with wide guard and Freeze-Dry to deal with water types like Gastrodon and Ice Stab.
This is a little different from the other Frosmoth sets.Gen 8 PUFrosmoth @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Ice ScalesEVs: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 SpeCalm Nature- Ice Beam- U-turn / Quiver Dance- Rest- Sleep Talk
This set is intended to check most of the special wallbreakers and sweepers in the tier. Ice Beam is STAB. U-Turn is for pivoting. Rest is for healing. Sleep Talk is so you won’t be vulnerable while you’re asleep. Quiver Dance can be used over U-Turn if you want to setup and boost your stats. 248 HP is to help with your bulk. 96 Speed EVs allow you to outspeed max speed Modest Alolan Exeggutor. The rest of the EVs go to special defense.
You’ll definitely want Pokémon who can check fire and rock types, so Pokémon such as Toxicroak and Jellicent are greatly appreciated. Pokémon who can’t take special hits that well can appreciate Frosmoth being able to take those hits for them. Pokemon such as Regirock, Basculin, Centiskorch, etc can help Frosmoth as they can check Pokémon such as Aggron and Archeops, who check ice types like Frosmoth.
252 SpA Heliolisk Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 54-64 (15.7 - 18.6%) – possible 6HKOPossible damage amounts: (54, 54, 55, 56, 57, 57, 58, 59, 59, 60, 60, 61, 62, 63, 63, 64)
+2 252 SpA Ribombee Moonblast vs. +2 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 52-62 (15.1 - 18%) – possible 6HKOPossible damage amounts: (52, 53, 54, 54, 54, 55, 56, 57, 57, 58, 58, 59, 60, 60, 61, 62)
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Toxicroak Focus Blast vs. +2 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 81-96 (23.6 - 27.9%) – 86.1% chance to 4HKOPossible damage amounts: (81, 82, 83, 84, 84, 86, 86, 88, 88, 90, 90, 92, 92, 94, 94, 96)
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Toxicroak Sludge Wave vs. +2 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 64-76 (18.6 - 22.1%) – possible 5HKOPossible damage amounts: (64, 65, 65, 66, 67, 68, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76)
252 SpA Choice Specs Whimsicott Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 107-126 (31.1 - 36.7%) – 70.3% chance to 3HKOPossible damage amounts: (107, 108, 109, 110, 112, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 119, 120, 122, 123, 124, 126)
Enjoy!
Lamp (Frosmoth) @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Ice ScalesHappiness: 160EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeTimid NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Quiver Dance- Bug Buzz- Air Slash / Giga Drain- Ice Beam
I don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about. No, I did not copy this from Smogon.
…ok, Ialmostdid, but I am opting to run Air Slash here instead of Hurricane because better accuracy, a 30% flinch chance, and I plan to have help from Quiver Dance already anyway. Giga Drain is also available to help fend off Rock types, should they give you an issue.
Focus Sash is also an acceptable item option if you’re planning on using this early, but given that it has a 4x susceptability to Stealth Rock, I think Smogon is actually smart for recommending these new boots here.
Doubles Set
Frosmoth @ Coba BerryAbility: Ice ScalesLevel: 50EVs: 36 HP / 252 Def / 220 SpAModest NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Wide Guard- Bug Buzz- Ice Beam- Struggle Bug
Maybe a niche check to the common Rillaboom seen in VGC. Wide Guard to protect from Rock Slide and other spread moves. Bug Buzz and Ice Beam for STAB. Struggle Bug for spread damage and special attack lowering.
Frosmoth @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Ice ScalesTera Type: WaterEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeTimid NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Quiver Dance- Tera Blast- Ice Beam- Giga Drain / Energy Ball
Counters:Iron Hands tanks everything you can throw at it with AV and kills with Thunder Punch. You barely do anything to it even with 1+ boost. To make matters worse, Fake Out can chip you. +1 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Iron Hands: 234-276 (45.7 - 53.9%) – 45.3% chance to 2HKO.Even if it is not running a bully set, Hands is just bulky in general and won’t be 1 shot without chip damage. +1 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Iron Hands: 350-412 (68.3 - 80.4%) – guaranteed 2HKO.Priority users destroy this thing. Meowscarada, Kingambit, Dragonite, Breloom, Ceruledge, Lokix, and Scizor when non Tera will do a lot of damage to you with their respective priority, if not 1 shotting.Fast mons or scared mons can outspeed and kill. Well, it is a slow mon even with +1 Speed, not super surprising.Toxapex walls you hard. No other thing needs to be said. +1 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Toxapex: 106-125 (34.8 - 41.1%) – guaranteed 3HKO. This isn’t Lefties SpD Pex, this is 4 EVs in SpD Pex.
Conclusion: This thing will probably find a home in a lower tier, but with Terastalizing, it will be much better than it has been. Also why did I do this analysis on a freaking moth lol
Frosmoth @ Never-Melt IceAbility: Ice ScalesEVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe or 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeTimid Nature- Quiver Dance- Bug Buzz- Ice Beam- Dazzling Gleam
Frosmoth has a lot of weaknesses, but having quiver dance is always a must with this mon. I was thinking possible Blizzard but only if you plan to run this on a snow weather team. But ice beam is OP anyways so why not?
Gen 9 NU Quiver DanceFrosmoth @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Ice ScalesTera Type: GhostEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeModest NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Substitute- Quiver Dance- Ice Beam- Giga Drain
Well, Frosmoth dropped to NU, and NU doesn’t have Copperajah or much Steel-types, so here is a Quiver Dance set that takes advantage of that. This set is made to lure in Blissey so you can use it as setup fodder. Should you have Frosmoth out vs a Pokemon weak to it and they have a Blissey in their team, they’re going to want to send it in, predicting your attack. From there, Frosmoth should use Substitute to avoid getting paralyzed by Thunder Wave. After hiding behind a Substitute, use Tera Ghost to become immune to Blissey’s Seismic Toss. Congratulations, unless the Blissey has Shadow Ball, it can no longer touch Frosmoth, allowing you to setup vs Blissey. Quiver Dance boosting Frosmoth’s Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed stats make this icy moth a scary threat.(This is bascially Substitute Quiver Dance Oricorio-Sensu, but on a Tera Ghost Frosmoth) Ice Beam is a powerful Ice STAB. Giga Drain is used to let Frosmoth recover HP. If you have enough Quiver Dance boosts and use Substitute, this set can even 1v1 Tera Steel Appletun. Heavy-Duty Boots is used to prevent Frosmoth from being chipped by Stealth Rock pre-Tera. This set should be used on Snow teams, as Abomasnow can setup Snow to have an Aurora Veil up, which gives Frosmoth more chances to setup. The defense boost from Snow can help Frosmoth setup if it hasn’t used its Tera yet.
Snomrade (Frosmoth) @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Ice ScalesEVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpeNature: TimidIVs: 0 Atk- Quiver Dance- Ice Beam / Blizzard- Air Slash / Hurricane- Giga Drain
This set works well when switching in on a special attacker. Quiver Dance once or twice and then you’re good to go. Just watch out for Steel types or other special walls!Ice beam/Blizzard for STAB coverage, choose accuracy or power.Air Slash/Hurricane for coverage and countering Fighting or Fire types. Again choose accuracy+flinch or power+confusion.Giga Drain for life steal and countering Rock types.
I like using Ice STAB over Bug Buzz, but if you need Dark and Psychic counters, then use Bug Buzz instead of Ice STAB or Giga Drain.
Frosmoth @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Ice ScalesNature: ModestEVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD- Bug Buzz- Ice Beam- Quiver Dance- Giga Drain
Bug Buzz and Ice Beam are STAB. Quiver Dance to boost its stats. Giga Drain for Rock types.
Frosmoth @ Charti Berry/Occa BerryAbility: Ice ScalesEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 SpeModest NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Bug Buzz/Struggle Bug- Quiver Dance- Giga Drain/Dazzling Gleam/Air Slash- Ice Beam/U-turnBug Buzz is a fairly powerful bug type move that has a chance of lowering the oppoment’s Special Defense while Struggle Bug is better in double battles as it hits adjacent foes and also lowers the special Attack of a foe, Quiver Dance is a good setup to raise it’s Specials and Speed, Giga Drain covers rock and also recovers it’s health, Dazzling Gleam hits both targets in double battles which is useful, Air Slash have a chance to Flinch, which gives a free turn, Ice Beam have a chance to Freeze and has STAB, U-turn is a nice move although Frostmoth has terrible Attack, but since U-turn does not have decreased priority, it would be useful.-_LC Snom luck setNom (Snom) (F) @ Bright Powder/Occa Berry/Charti Berry/EvioliteAbility: Ice ScalesLevel: 5Shiny: YesEVs: 236 Def / 76 SpA / 196 SpDModest NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Bug Buzz- Icy Wind- Attract- ProtectBright Powder for a 10% chance for 100% accuracy moves to miss like Flamethrower or Fire Lash, Ice Scales to make Snom’s Special Defense less terrible, Bug Buzz being the best move Snom can learn as Snom’s Attack is also terrible, Icy Wind lowers the oppoment’s speed, which can be useful sometimes, Protect against nasty Throat Choppers to stall up, and Attract because most Pokemon will be male, so this Snom is a female to get lucky and the target will get infatuated.
I’ve hoped I’ve helped!
Frosmoth @ Life OrbAbility: Ice ScalesEVs: 252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 SpDIVs: 0 SpeQuiet Nature- Bug Buzz- Ice Beam- U-Turn- Hurricane / Giga Drain / Dazzling Gleam / Calm Mind / Air Slash
A Trick Room set. Life Orb makes your attacks do more damage. Ice Scales allows it to switch into special attacks, assuming they aren’t too powerful. The EVs maximize damage, and focus in defense. The IVs are so it outspeeds things in Trick Room. Quiet Nature maximizes attack power while lowering speed, which is useful to outspeed things in Trick Room. Bug Buzz is STAB. Ice Beam is STAB. Blizzard is stronger STAB, but has shaky accuracy. U-Turn allows it to pivot out of bad matchups. The last slot is coverage. Giga Drain can heal, and is for rock types. Hurricane does a lot of damage, but has shaky accuracy. Dazzling Gleam is coverage. Air Slash is more accurate flying coverage. Calm Mind can be used to set up and sweep.
Do you ever try something that you think will do bad, but ends up being good? Well, that is the case with Specially Defensive Defog Frosmoth.
Gen 9 NU DefogFrosmoth @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Ice ScalesTera Type: Water / GroundEVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpDCalm NatureIVs: 0 Atk- Ice Beam- Giga Drain- Stun Spore / U-turn- Defog
Yes, Defog Frosmoth is actually a thing in Gen 9 NU, and is quite good due to Ice Scales, Heavy-Duty Boots, and Tera. This set allows you to check special wallbreakers. Ice Beam is used for an Ice STAB. Giga Drain is used to deal super effective damage to Water-types such as Vaporeon, Bruxish, and Clawitzer. Stun Spore is used to slow down opposing Pokemon, while U-turn can be used instead to pivot out of bad matchups. Defog is used to clear entry hazards from the field. Tera Water is used to give Frosmoth a nice defensive typing. Tera Ground allows Frosmoth to resist Rock-moves.
