Which Pokemon with Moxie is best in Gen 8 AG: Krookodile, Gyarados or Heracross?

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You really should not be using them in AG at all.

Krookodile’s Moxie is cool, but it is too weak and too slow to be viable. It is outclassed by Excadrill as a Ground type for its ability to function as an effective suicide Stealth Rock lead, Tyranitar for its support and bulk, Yveltal for its sheer wallbreaking power or its access to some good support moves like Snarl, Foul Play, Knock Off, Defog, Roost as well as it having the best matchup against Calyrex-Shadow, the most dangerous Pokemon in Gen 8 AG, which becomes dominant once an answer is removed. Between Krookodile and Groudon, it isn’t even a contest. Dynamax Groudon is bigger, faster, stronger too.

Excadrill @ Focus SashAbility: Mold BreakerEVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpeJolly Nature

Tyranitar @ Leftovers / Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Sand StreamEVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDCareful Nature

Yveltal @ Life OrbAbility: Dark AuraEVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 SpeRash Nature

Yveltal @ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Dark AuraEVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDCareful Nature

Groudon @ Life OrbAbility: DroughtEVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpeJolly Nature

The answer is still the same. Outclassed, this time by the much stronger Kyogre (I’d add the Block+Calm Mind+Rest/Block+Sheer Cold set here but I don’t know the exact EVs, item, and nature)

Kyogre @ Choice Scarf / Choice SpecsAbility: DrizzleEVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpeTimid Nature

Heracross is not a good Pokemon in Gen 8 AG either. Marshadow is much better for its ability to revenge-kill Calyrex-Shadow, and its higher Speed and better part Ghost typing.

Marshadow @ Life OrbAbility: TechnicianEVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpeJolly Nature

Don’t use any of these in AG. They all suck.(I’m not gonna talk about using them in AG, it’s foolish to use these Pokémon there. I’m going to talk about the tier you should be using them in. UU.)

First off,Heracross is RU,and therefore is inferior to the others, which areUU.

Krookodile and Gyarados are hard to compare. Gyarados prefers to setup withDragon Dance,while Krookodile opts for immediate speed with aChoice Scarf.

The typing is also different. Krookodile has pretty great coverage in Ground and Dark along with lots of other coverage choices (fighting and rock being quite appealing), while having a sad 6 weaknesses. However, immunities to Electric and Psychic are helpful.

Gyarados suffers from an unfortunate lack of flying STAB, but has only two weaknesses (one of which is covered by Water, the other by Earthquake), an immunity, and 5 resistances. It has Earthquake, Crunch, Stone Edge, and others for coverage, so it’s pretty good there, too.

Honestly, it comes down to your team and personal preference.Speed immediately, Speed AND Attack from Dragon Dance? Krookodile, or Gyarados?

PS. If you want an AG Moxie user, go with Calyrex-Ice. It’s ability is an upgraded moxie, and it is atleastsomewhatviable.

I’d say, Salamence is the best moxie Pokémon than the ones you mentioned.

Here’s why:

Good STAB moves and coverage moves.Faster than Krookodile, Heracross and Gyarados.Salamence @ Life OrbAbility: MoxieEVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 SpeAdamant Nature- Dragon Dance- Dragon Claw- Fire Fang- Dual Wingbeat